Andrew Wenkel Part 6 1950-1979

Andrew Charles Wenkel

1951, age 51

In this decade, he experienced the death of father August Friederich Andreas Wenkel, 5 October 1951, Standish, Arenac, Michigan

1951 ANC10_benefits_pay

1969, age 69

In this decade his brother died, Fred Felix Wenkel, 21 March 1969, Standish, Arenac, Michigan

1972, age 72

In this decade, five siblings died as well as his own death.

• Death of sister Anna Wenkel, 16 May 1972, Montclair, Essex, New Jersey
• Death of brother August Paul Wenkel, 24 July 1973, Wauconda Lake, Illinois
• Death of sister Alvena Marie Wenkel, 30 October 1975, Asbury, Warren, New Jersey
• Death of sister Karolina Friederike Sophie Wenkel, 32 October 1975, Standish, Bay, Michigan
• Death of sister Frieda Caroline Wenkel, 17 November 1978, Glencoe, Cook, Illinois

Something I just noticed.  Anna died just a year before my grandfather August.  Alvena and Karolina died within a day of each other.

1979, age 79

Died, 28 August 1979, Glencoe, Cook, Illinois, buried Northbrook, Cook County, Illinois.  He died two months after I graduated from High School, but I never knew it.

Andrew F. Wenkel 1979 obituary

Wenkel

Andrew F. Wenkel, beloved husband of Emily L., fond brother of Dora Hohlfelder, Alvena Schnetzer, Celia Schinler, Bertha Barber and Sophia Hoder.  Funeral ... Interment at Sacred Heart Cemetery....

Andrew F. Wenkel gravestone
from FindaGrave Memorial# 25470133

He is buried in Sacred heart Cemetery, Northbrook, Cook County Illinois, Plot #12

Sacred Heart Cemetery
from FindaGrave

Mini Pedigree from Ancestry.com

Andrew Wenkel Part 5 1940-1949

As Promised, here is the 1940 Census

1940, age 40, Census

1 April 1940, New Trier, Cook, Illinois.

Andrew  and Emily Wenkel, 1940 Census

This couple moved again, this time to 334 South Avenue in New Trier IL.  They are both 40 years old, married, not attending school.  Andrew completed 8th grade while Emily completed the first two years of High School.  According to this census, they lived there five years previously in 1935.  However, the census a year earlier shows a Madison Avenue address.  What gives?  He is a paid worker as an auto mechanic and has never been unemployed.

Well, we have to understand how the census was taken.  If, when the enumerator came around, and they were both gone, they asked at the neighbors house.  Neighbors don't always know where you lived five years earlier.  That's the only explanation for the discrepancy.

1946 Family Reunion

Andrew and Emily Wenkel with Anna
photo by Christi Adams, used with permission

Andrew and Emily Logan Wenkel, Anna Wenkel
August and Sophia Rohrsen Wenkel
1946 Reunion, Standish Michigan

1948, age 48

Death of mother Sophia Rohrsen, 2 August 1948, Standish, Arenac, Michigan

Mini Pedigree from Ancestry.com

Alvena Marie Wenkel Schnetzer 1889-1975 part 7

Alvena Marie Wenkel Schnetzer 1889-1975

Part 7, 1960s, age 70-86

Mini Pedigree from Ancestry.com

1963 age 73

Alvena's Social security card first issued to her in New Jersey

1969 age 79

Death of brother Fred Felix in Standish MI

1972 age 83

Death of sister Anna Wenkel in Montclair NJ.  Did they live close to each other?

1973 age 84

 death of brother August Paul Wenkel in Wauconda IL -- I never knew of his siblings deaths so close to each other

1982 age 86 

I can usually find the burial site, but I've searched Ancestry.com, FindaGrave, both with the dates of birth and death to no avail.  Even searching for just her name both married and maiden yeilded no results.  Broadening the search to just the last name for this death date, and to just the first and last name with no dates was unsuccessful.  Putting just the last name of Schnetzer gave me three results, none of them any member of this family.

Finally, on BillionGraves.com, after inputting just the last name Schnetzer, I got many results.  I scrolled through three pages worth, with no relevant results.  The search on Ancestry is fruitless.  Nobody has any record of burial.  I've put out a question on the Wenkel Family group on Facebook, and I was told I should contact her son Norman's family.  I'll update when I get new information.  If I don't, then that itself is part of the story.

I've searched Legacy Obituaries with no results.

US Social Security Death Index has a different date of death than what I originally have.  Wonder where I got that information from?  The only information on her death is from the SSDI.

Alvena Schnetzer, SSAN 139-38-5271; last residence Asbury, Warren, New Jersey; born 18 April 1889; died July 1982.  Social Security cared was issued in 1963 in New Jersey

Source Information -- Ancestry.com, US Social Security Death Index, 1935-2014 [database online].  Provo Utah, USA; Ancestry.com Operations Inc. 2011.  Original data -- Social Security Administration.  Social Security Death Index, Master File.  Social Security Administration.

1989

Son Norman John Schnetzer died, listing his parents

Norman John Schnetzer (N.J. Schnetzer) born 17 September 1928 at Glen Ridge East, New Jersey.  Died January 1989.  Parents John J. Schnetzer and Alvena M. Wenkel.  SSAN 142-22-0967.  In October 1944, his name was listed as Norman John Schetzer.  in 7 February 1989 his name was listed as N.J. Schnetzer.

Source Information -- Ancestry.com, US Social Security Applications and Claims Index, 1936-2007 [database online]. Provo Utah USA. Ancestry.com Operations 2015.  Original Data -- US Social Security Applications and Claims, 1936-2007

2016

Son Arnold lived in Asbury New Jersey and seems to be buried in Washington, New Jersey according to Ancestry's Cemetery and Funeral Home collection

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Photo Detail of four sisters by Christi Adams https://www.ancestry.com/mediaui-viewer/collection/1030/tree/14582634/person/270992602/media/13520027-2967-4a1e-b47b-bdac29f00104?_phsrc=KGX236&usePUBJs=true

Photo detail of two sisters by Christi Adams https://www.ancestry.com/mediaui-viewer/collection/1030/tree/14582634/person/270992602/media/98af6fb9-337e-41e2-bb86-8166546b8951?_phsrc=KGX236&usePUBJs=true

Alvena Marie Wenkel Schnetzer 1889-1975 part 5

Alvena Marie Wenkel Schnetzer 1889-1975

Part 5, 1940s, age 50-59

Mini Pedigree from Ancestry.com

1939 age 50

John Schnetzer has his auto repr (repair? reposession?) address 91 Greenwood Avenue, their home is 35 Grenada Place in Montclair New Jersey.

1939 John and Alvena Wenkel Schnetzer residence
Montclair NJ directory

John Schnetzer Auto Business
91 Greenwood Avenue, Montclair NJ
Google Maps Image 2017

Source information:  Ancestry.com.  US City Directories, 1922-1995 [database online].  Provo, UT:  Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2011

1940 age 50

L-R 1939-1940 Alvina, Celia, Frieda, Anna, Marilyn, Dora Wenkel
used with permission from Marianne McCarthy

This photo was uploaded to the Wenkel Family facebook group by Marianne McCarthy, with permission to use.  Marianne is Frieda's granddaughter.

1940 age 50

John and Alvina Wenkel Schnetzer 1940 Census
Montclair NJ
from Ancestry.com

In this 1940 census, Alvena Schnetzer looks like it's written as "Albena."  She's 51 years old, living with her 38 year old husband and her two boys, ages 11 and 8.  The live at 35 Grenda Place, Montclair, Essex, New Jersey, she same place she lived in in 1935.  

Source Citation -- Ancestry.com.  1940 United States Federal Census [database online].  Provo, Utah.  Ancestry.com Operations, Inc. 2012.  Original data USA Bureau of the Census, Sixteenth Census of the United States, 1940, Washington DC.  National Archives and Records Administration 1940, T627, 4,653 rolls.

1941 age 52

John J. Schnetzer apparently has two auto businesses, one at 152 Valley Road and an auto repr (repair?) at 91 Greenwood Avenue.  He and Alvena M. live at 35 Grenada Place, Montclair NJ.

John and Alvena Wenkel Schnetzer 1941 Directory
Montclair New Jersey

Source information:  Ancestry.com.  US City Directories, 1922-1995 [database online].  Provo, UT:  Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2011

Alvena Wenkel Schnetzer 1941
182 Wildwood Ave Montclair NJ
Google Maps Image November 2016

I love the way this house looks now.  It must have been a great move for this family

1947 age 58

Alvena Wenkel Schnetzer 1947 Directory, Montclair NJ

Alvena M. Schnetzer living with husband at 182 Wildwood Avenue, Montclair New Jersey.  John has his business still at 91 Greenwood Avenue.  He has an employee, Otto Schnetzer, who may be his brother or nephew?

Source information:  Ancestry.com.  US City Directories, 1822-1995 [database online].  Provo, UT:  Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2011.

1948 age 59

death of mother Sophia Rohrsen Wenkel in Standish MI